they want to cut taxes and cut the deficit at the same time. those are their two agenda items. you can't do both. they are just trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. >> now, when you look at the reaction, patricia, there's no wonder they are being defeated at the polls and poll after poll shows that americans are not going their way but i think this only further drives the wedge between the american voters because people are offended when it is clear you are not even being honest with them. >> well, yeah. and i think what americans are really want is just an honest discussion of the issues and if people come at an issue and have an honest disagreement and use facts that are accurate, you can have that discussion and debate. but when you come out of a discussion with facts that are not true that "the washington post" says are four pin knock key ohios, you can't even start to talk about things in an honest way and that's why michele bachmann has gotten into so much trouble. she won her last wasn't by a point. she's a huge target for democrats coming up in the next election c